At 10:57 AM 24/10/97 PST8, you wrote: > I was talking to a salesman the other day about up-integrating my > design. He represented ATMEL and claimed that the AT90S1200 is > equivalent to the PIC16C84. I noticed his lips moving which makes > me doubt the validity (i.e. How do you know if a salesman is Lying? > answer: His lips are moving). > > Does anyone have experience with this part or company? How about > code compatibility? code compatibility: NO code memory size: 1/2 of C84, (== 600..700 PIC Words) RAM Size: 32 Words ( ie less than 36 words on C84) EEPROM Size: 64 (Same as C(F)84) Power Consumption >> PIC Speed >> PIC Internal RC, yes, External NO Stack 3 Level! against 8 in C84 Device Programming simpler than PIC (no 12 V needed) for AT90S1200 applications look http://arbasic.com/appnotes as of the salesman talk: he was lying and he was not lying- not lying: PIC16C84 is _closest_ equivalent to AT90S1200 lying: not all PIC16C84 designs fit into AT90S1200 (many do) antti http://avrbasic.com -- AVR Basic Compiler http://sistudio.com/bswfe -- Basic Stamp Windows Front End