Bob Lunn 10/22/97 04:34 PM > I saw it, it appears to work. I also saw it running > (warm to the touch) at almost 100MIPS. The programming > cable works, the software they had running it was > incomplete, but definitely more than vapor. I honestly _don't_ want to be too pedantic about this. But I believe there is a huge difference between a company that is shipping a working product, and a company that has a working product that they intend to ship at some point in the future. With the information I have to hand about the Scenix chip I could _not_ recommend it for a new design. ___Bob