On the subject of Schematic Capture and board layout software: I am using BoardMaker, a product of Tsien, U.K. It seems satisfactory for the price (under $300 U.S.), but I have had two failures with the dreadful Dongle, and had to wait for a replacement. Of course, the autorouter is practically worthless - I foolishly paid the extra $200 for it. Thre's also now way to "pour" copper, though that's probably found only in "high end" programs. Is anyone else on the PIC list a user of BoardMaker ?