At 10:35 PM 16/10/97 -0400, you wrote: >At 09:04 PM 10/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >>> Does anyone use ATMEL 8051 type clones? Any thoughts on using them versus >>> another 8051 manufacturer? Thanks. >> >>As far as I can tell, the Atmel 8x51 clones are indistinguishable from other >>clones save only for the ability to reprogram them. Since the cost is often >>not far from OTP's, and is much less than window parts, I think Atmel 8x51's >>have a lot going for them, save only for that goofy instruction set [remem- >>ber which list you're posting to... >:*3] > >I know, I know :) That's why I posted to the Off topic section! I want to >experiment a little and Atmel seems like a good deal. Free programming >software, a schematic for making a parallel port programmer, and EE stylr >parts. Too bad they don't have more code, but that can be found elsewhere. 89C55 has 20 KB flash 89S8252 has 8KB flash + 2KB data EEPROM and is serially reprogrammable we have found a pretty useful free Pascal-51 compiler if somebody wants to get get fast into Atmel 51 parts ftp://sistudio.com/atmel/pascal51 antti http://avrbasic.com -- AVR Basic Compiler http://sistudio.com/bswfe -- Basic Stamp Windows Front End