-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Warren To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Thursday, 9 October 1997 16:03 Subject: Re: [OT, somewhat] Windows CE... William Chops Westfield wrote: > I was surprised to see such a push for Windows CE at the ESC. Is > WINCE really an embedded operating system? I thought it was a small > personal computer operating system, which is an entirely different > thing, at least to me... >Bill: >As far as I can tell, Windows CE is just a way for Microsoft to scare >people away from Embedded Java until Gates, Ballmer, and Myhrvold can >figure out what the embedded-systems world is all about and give us >what we REALLY want. OTOH, I haven't seen anything from embedded java that I really want. Java looks nice, but not nice enough to switch from c++. What embedded java h/w is available in the characteristics WinCE h/w must have? I *can* see attractions in a modicum of code transportability between Win95 -> CE I *can't* see much of this rather vapourous java, other than implementations running on existing non-native java platforms. Am I missing the point? >Whether you call Win-CE (or Embedded Java) an "embedded operating >system", "real-time operating system", or "small personal computer >operating system" is unimportant... The important thing is that Sun Yes, thats just playing with aliases >and Microsoft will be battling each other in a market that's been >stagnating for a while, so good things are bound to come from the >competition. MS are probably happy - it gives them someone to point to when the anti-trust suits get too close... >Not that it matters to ME, of course... I write for half-K PICs >with 25 bytes of RAM. Where do you want to go today - well, a PIC without segmentation would be nice, for a start.