At 05:58 PM 8/10/97 PDT, you wrote: >It might be worthwhile learning assembler on a more general architecture >and more interactive environment than is obtainable on PICS. Learning >PIC assembler should be trivial, as long as it's your third or better >architecture. Trying to learn ASSEMBLER concepts at the same time you >learn PIC assmebler concepts might be trying. Certainly trying to write >your first assembler routine on home-designed HW, where each iteration >involves erasing and reprogramming some chip is an activity akin to a >punched-card environment - very unpleasant. I don't know if the assorted >simulators available would be enough to help or not... agree >Does anyone make a simulator where you can "connect" simmulated high level >peripherals to your simulated device? simulated async terminals, simulated >LCD displays, simulated PWM meters, simulated analog circuitry ala the >basic stamp analog hacks, simulated multiplexed displays, etc, etc? Any >architecture would be interesting... Anyone have ideas about how to do >this? UMPS (Universal Microprocessore Simulator) includes PIC core and pretty much all the extrnal components you asked for. us mirror http://sistudio.com/umps antti http://avrbasic.com -- AVR Basic Compiler http://sistudio.com/bswfe -- Basic Stamp Windows Front End