Pasi T Mustalahti wrote: [snip] > What we know already is that RS232 voltages are enough in most PC's > but not in the portables. > With minor modifications to Ludi prommer we could possibly make it > more reliable but we don't want to modify programs. [snip] Hello, I'm afraid I'm not answering your question but have you seen Jens Madsen's programmers ? For instance : http://www.student.dtu.dk/~c888600/newpic.htm He has at least 4 versions on his site and they should be better than the Ludi with low RS232 voltages. I haven't tried them - I had already made a Ludi before finding out about them ! Best regards, Chris -- Chris MOORE, Symah Vision c/o Matra MS&I, mailto:cmoore@mgn.fr 6, rue Dewoitine, BP 14, 78142 Velizy-Villacoublay Cedex, France. Tel: 01 34 63 71 27 Fax: 01 34 63 70 57 Pag: tamtam.tm.fr 06 01 19 74 90