On 2 Oct 97 at 8:21, Oyvind Kaurstad wrote: > >> >These, as do most "economy gauges" use a pressure sensor on the > >> >vacuum line of the engine. The harder the engine work the higher the > >> >vacuum. Very imperic. > > > -Oyvind replied > > > > >> Do you mean "less pressure" when you say "higher vacuum"? > >> If so, you are mistaken. > >> > >> If the engine works harder you get MORE pressure in the intake > >> manifold. > >> > >> Just think of it, when you step on the loud pedal you open the air > >> intake valve to allow more air into the engine. More air -> Higher pressure. > > >Faster airflow -> lower pressure ! In the manifold that is. > > Consider this situation: > > A regular carbureted engine is driving uphill at a moderate speed > (constant) and with a medium throttle setting. > > In the intake manifold we have, say 0.7 bar. > > Then the driver open up the intake valve by applying full throttle. > The pressure in the manifold now increase to, say 0.9 bar. > > Why? > > This happens because the pistons are moving with the same speed as > before the throttle was applied, but the air intake is now wide > open. > > If you have ever looked at a regular vacuum economy gauge, you > must have noticed that it will show "good economy" when running at > idle, but if you stop the engine it will show "bad economy".. > > There is no doubt that the pressure in the intake manifold is 1 bar > with the engine stopped..? > > There is also no doubt that the pressure is less than 1 bar when > running at idle? > > Still disagree? > The so called 'Economy Gauges' are a total waste of time - they flop backwards and forwards crazily. The tendency of car makers to omit RPM gauges in favour of theses devices is idiotic - a car computer might make sense of manifold pressure, but its useless info to a person. MikeS (remove the you know what before replying)