>above K&R section. Short's and long's are then up to the compiler writer. K&R is the problem, then, I suppose. Most of us have progressed beyond that stage, and insist upon uniformity. As I understand it, ANSI and K&R are _NOT_ the same thing. I, for one, utterly ENJOY being able to test modules on my PC using MS VC++, then, without changing anything, cut and paste into my HiTech C and still have functioning code. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================