> ATMEL sells a prommer for this chips, here in Austria it costs less than > $180. Is this too expensive? > ernst parth PTM: I think it is a bit expensive compared to PIC, that can be programmed with a homebrew 5$ prommer. I'm expectin to find a similar solution. (89c1051 / 2051) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PTM, pasi.mustalahti@utu.fi, ptmusta@utu.fi, http://www.utu.fi/~ptmusta Lab.ins. (mikrotuki) ATK-keskus/Mat.Luon.Tdk OH1HEK Lab.engineer (PC support) Computer Center OI7234 Mail: Turun Yliopisto / Fysla, Vesilinnantie 5, 20014 Pt 02-3336669, FAX 02-3335632 (Pk 02-2387010, NMT 049-555577) --------------------------------------------------------------------------