This is part of a private coversation that I have thrown open for group
 discussion.
I have put this thread out into the PIClist so others may comment & learn from
 the discussion.
I hope you don't mind Don.
I also hope no one else minds newcomers asking dumb questions on the public
 forum.
I personally think it's the best place to get a mix of opinions.

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> From: Don McKenzie
> To: Cliff Rogers
> Subject: Re: Dumb Question
>
> Cliff Rogers wrote:
> >
> > G'day again, What's the differance between an AVR90S1200 & a PIC16F84?

Don McKenzie wrote;
>
> Quite a lot Cliff, but then when the AVR device has been on the market
> as long as the 84, then I think it will take over from it. Just lacks
> development tools really.
>
> You need to read the specs to find out the nitty gritty.
> PDF files are available on the appropriate manufacturers home pages.

1. Where do I find the manufacturers' home pages?

2. Is the AVR better than the PIC?

3. Are there development tools for Both and where do I find them?

4. What do you recommend to a beginner to microcontrollers?

I do not have a particular project in mind at this stage however I am interested
 in enviroment control for horticulture &
hydroponics, engine monitoring & management, & general process control.
More than just your average PC controled sprinkler system or security system.
I am a technician, not just a hobbiest. I am testing the water before I bite the
 bullet.

Thanks, Cliff.