Well, I've thought about that one before, but the problem I've always had with the idea is that it would be too easy for even experienced users to plug a 9V device into a 15V socket (you get the idea). Of course, this is possible with warts too if they use the same plug and you get them mixed up. Most of the devices I'm currently running from warts are not internally regulated. But the current situation, 1 wart per device, is ridiculous. JMNSHO - Martin R. Green elimar@bigfoot.com ---------- From: John Payson[SMTP:supercat@MCS.NET] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 10:17 AM To: PICLIST@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: Re: PIC power supply ... > Wall warts are indeed an economical supply for many projects, but I have so > many of them in behind my stereo stand (and of course, they are too wide > for one slot on the power bar), that they almost take up more space than > the equipment they power. Actually, what I'd like to see would be some smaller wall warts. Although there have been a few that use HF transformers with optocoupled feedback (an oscillator on the "hot" side generates a signal which is fed through the transformer; the oscillator adjusts itself according to feedback about the regulated voltage) they've tended to be expensive. What I'd like to see, though, would be a wall wart that skipped the feedback step and simply gave you pretty much unfiltered DC which was 18-24v peak. The user application could then regulate the output in whatever manner was desired (7805 plus a resistor and a couple caps being a nice choice). This should be cheaper than an optocoupled feedback circuit, but would allow the wall wart to fit in a much smaller plug than normal. Alternatively... what if someone just produced a multi-output power supply with output plugs suitable for use with all those appliances? Should be much cheaper than a foot of wall warts; smaller too. Think that'd be at all practical?