Cliff Rogers wrote: > > G'day, I found this one on the net here in Oz. I haven't found anyone > who has > tried it yet to get their comments. > > http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~donmck/pickaxe.html Nuh! I think it's a bit of a dud! ;-) You could try: http://www.dontronics.com/pickaxe.html You will also find free Windows and DOS software and full schematics to do in-circuit programming with the PIC16C84 and PIC16F84. It uses a 4PDT switch to do a program then run cycle. The target chip stays in the target board, so that code changes can be done in a few seconds. 1 or 2 people on this list use it now I believe. Don McKenzie mailto:don@dontronics.com http://www.dontronics.com SimmStick(tm) Atmel & PIC proto PCB's. 30 pin Simm Module Format. SLI, the serial LCD that auto detects baud rates from 100 to 125K bps. Send a blank message to mailto:info@dontronics.com for more details.