Lots of talk. I'll suggest the same thing Bob Pease did: let's have some
 examples.
Is there any small system that we could propose and actually build that will
 work
driven by fuzzy logic and not when driven by a pid algorithm, or is so much
 better
when done using fuzzy logic (code size, speed, performance, system cost,
 whatever)
that no engineer in his/her right mind would use the pid driven version?

I'll commit some of Time Tech's resources to the actual construction of such a
project, provided it's not too large.

Any ideas?

--Tom Rogers  VP-R&D  Time Tech Inc.

BTW, I'm firmly on the 'I like FL' side of this debate, but not many people I've
debated understood what the heck I was saying, and that includes an exchange
 with
Bob Pease. I've got Kosko's text and a bunch of other stuff, and I've used FL in
 a
couple of places, but I'm no expert. --TR