Hiya Myke! I added a few things I thought relevant. (Sorry for posting your entire message! :=)) myke predko wrote: > >Subscribing to the PICLIST > > > >The PICLIST is a very busy listserver - over 100 messages per day is not > >unheard of. Occasionally discussion can get off topic and become somewhat > >heated. To avoid problems and becoming innundated with messages suggesting > that >your ancestors skipped an evolutionary step, there are a few informal > rules of >PICLIST "netiquette" you should be aware of: > > > > 1.Don't subscribe to the List and then immediately start sending questions > > to the List. Instead, wait a day or so to get the hang of how messages > > are > > sent and replied to on the List and get a "feel" for the best way of > > asking questions. > > > > 2.If you are changing the "Subject" line of a post, please reference the > > previous topic (ie put in "was: '...'"). This will help others keep track > > of the conversation. > > > > 3.When replying to a previous post, try to minimize how much of the > > previous > > note is copied in your note and maximize the relevance to your reply. This > > is not to say that none of the message should be copied or referenced. > > There is a very fine balance between having too much and too little. The > > sender of the note you are replying to should be referenced (with their > > ID). > > > > My rule of thumb is, if the original question is less than ten lines, I > > copy it all. If it is longer, then I cut it down (identifying what was cut > > out with a "SNIP" Message), leaving just the question and any relevent > > information. > > > > 4.If you have a program that doesn't work, please don't copy the entire > > source into a note and then post it to the List. As soon as I see a note > > like this I just delete it and go on to the next one (and I suspect that > > I'm not the only one). > > Ask first and them (maybe) send your code. Or keep it short. > > People on the list are more than happy and willing to answer specific > > questions, but simply putting complete source code in the note and asking > > a question like "Why won't the LCD Display anything" really isn't useful > > for anybody. Instead, try to isolate the failing code and describe > > what is > > actually happening along with what you want to happen. If you do this, > > chances are you will get an answer literally within minutes. Your code is useless to the piclisters if they don't know your hardware setup. Ie: My keyboard and yours work differently, so do my display. > > > > 5.You may find a totally awesome and appropriate web page and want to share > > it with the list. Please make it easier on the people in the list to cut > > and paste the URL by putting it on a line all by itself in the format: > > > > http://www.awesome-pic-page.com > > > > 6.If you have a new application, graphic, or whatever you would like to > > share with everyone on the List, please don't send it as an attachment in > > a note to the List. Instead, either indicate you are have this amazing > > piece of work and tell people that you have it and where to request it > > (either to you or to a web server address). > > > > If you don't have a web page of your own or one you can access, > > requesting > > somebody to put it on their web page or ftp server is cool. > > > > 7.Putting job postings or employment requests is appropriate for the list. > > However, I don't recommend that the rate of pay or conditions of > > employment should be included in the note (unless you want to be > > identified as cheap, greedy, exploitive or unreasonable). > > > > 8.Spams are sent to the List Server occasionally. Please do not "reply" to > > the note. This will send a message to everyone in the list. If you must > > send a note detailing your disgust, send it to the spam orignator. > > > > NOTE: Many companies sending out spams collect the originating addresses > > of replying messages and sell them to other companies or distributors of > > addresses on CD-ROM. When a spam has been sent to the PICLIST, it has just > > been sent to the PICLIST and not you personally. Sending a note directly > > back to the Spammer gives them your ID. > > > > I know it's frustrating, but if you want to minimize how much you are > > bothered in by spammers in the future, ignore all spams. > > > > 9.Off topic messages, while tolerated will probably bring lots of abuse > upon > > yourself. If you feel it is appropriate to send an off topic message, put > > "[OT]" in the subject line, some members of the list use mail filters and > > this will allow them to ignore the off topic posts automagically. > > > > 10.Posts referencing Pirate sites or sources of "cracked" or "hacked" > > software is not apporiate and may be illegal. If you are not sure if it > > is okay to post the latest software you've found on the 'Net, then DON'T > > until you have checked with the owners of the software and gotten their > > permission. It would also be a good idea to indicate in your post that > you > > have the owner's permission. > > > > 11.Below, I have specified the instructions for subscribing and signing off > > the PICLIST. When you subscribe to the PICLIST, you will get a > > confirmation note telling you how to access the commands and signing off. > > Do not send a note to the PICLIST with "unsubscribe" or "signoff" in it > > unless you want to be inundated with notes telling you how stupid, > > insenstive, and rude you are. Instead, follow the instructions below for > > signing off. > > > > Just a couple of hints when signing off: > > o When signing off the PICLIST, make sure you do it from the ID that > > you originally subscribed to the List from. The Mail Server cannot > > keep track of Aliases and redirections. > > o If you are having trouble signing off the PICLIST, sending an angry > > note or a note with "unsubscribe" to the List will not be a positive > > experience for you. Sending a note listing your problem and what > > you've done to try to resolve it will be met with a much more > > positive response. > > > > 12.Lastly, please try to be courteous to all on the PICLIST. Others may not > > have your knowledge and experience or they may be sensitive about > > different issues. There is a very high level of professionalism (for lack > > of a better word) on this List, please help maintain it. > > 13. When a discussion (this usually happens with off topics) eventually gets so strung out that there is only two people left responinding to the mails - stop it entirely or go 'private'. You can obtain the other persons e-mail address from the header of the message - send your message to him/her and not to the entire list. They would have lost interest a long time ago. > > Being insulting or rude will only get the same back and probably have > your > > posts and legitimate questions ignored in the future by others on the > list > > who don't want to have anything to do with you. > > > > > > > >To subscribe to the list, send a note to listserv@mitmva.mit.edu with the > >message: > > > > subscribe piclist your name > > > >In the body of the message. > > > >Save the confirmation message - this will give you the instructions for > signing > >off the list as well as instructions on how to access > >more advanced functions. > > > >To sign off the list, send a note to the same address > (listserv@mitmva.mit.edu) > >with the message: > > > > signoff piclist > > > >Once you have subscribed to the PICLIST, you will begin receiving mail from > >piclist@mitmva.mit.edu notes can be sent to this > >address directly or can be replied to directly from your mailer. > > myke > > "One must invoke enough raw truth to punch a hole in the world" - Darl Af Hope you don't mind! I thought you wouldn't mind. For the rest of it - excellent idea. I hope this fixes some kind of etiquette. ~CIAO! -- Eric van Es | Cape Town, South Africa mailto:vanes@ilink.nis.za | http://www.nis.za/~vanes LOOKING FOR TEMPORARY / HOLIDAY ACCOMODATION? http://www.nis.za/~vanes/accom.htm