At 02:02 PM 31/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >> Herbert, you need a programmer that supports the 16F84. Most all >>commercial and `build it yourself' programmers now support the 16F84. > > OK, I heard it was different, but what are the differences? I am >building a programmer refered by someone here and I don't what to spend time >learning something that is being phased out! :) TTYL for the programmer point of few the only difference is in FUSEWORD, if you use __FUSES and correct .INC file and *don't* use the programming software fuse settings and the programming softwreads and writes the fuses correctly from the hex file then you should be OK, regardless of the C ir F84. If you have HEX file for C84 and need to program a F84 instead then PWRTE fuse bit needs to be 'inverted' thats all. antti Get free AVR Basic Compiler Demo Edition http://avrbasic.com/files/abcde.zip