Thanks to recommendations of people here I have decided to start learning the PIC with the 16C84 version, my only problem is which one to get, the C or the F. As I understand it the C is the EEPROM version and the F is the FLASH version, and as far as I know from my point of view there should be no difference. The difference in price and room is evident, the FLASH version seems to be cheaper and have more room. Thanks for any info.