KcW wrote: > Ok, that's one I never thought of. That's the kind of thing I need > though, good non-linear thinking. We thought of this one for the (IronMan series) Triathlon tracking, but even on a bike, it is very difficult to mount a barcode to be reliably visible from a given angles, let alone a runner (or swimmer?). Having volunteers read the 3" high numbers (on the rear struts of the bike) has been a real headache, impossible to use with sufficient reliability for real-time tracking. Presently, transponders are used by a specialist firm to track the intermediate and final finish lines, but they want (much!) more money to provide intermediate checkpoints. (The transponders are worn on a Velcro band on the leg.) Understandably, as the interrogation point electronics are presumably fairly sophisticated, and a set of 1000 transponders is non-trivial if we were to look at only two or three events a year. Some "disposals" ones are offering though; Philips PCF7930CP/25 but I have had no success finding data on these even to determine range and method of interrogation. Any ideas? Except for the noted potential dirt problem, the barcode idea has merit for cars though. Laser scanners would not work in daylight, but CCD scanners would. If you can chicane the cars of course, and mount the code longitudinally, they would self-scan like packing crates on the conveyor belt. We have already noted this limitation however with the Triathlons, competitors won't be chicaned! Most (CCD) scanners I have seen use the 68HC11 or 80C51 and the code is non-trivial, but perhaps an overhead boom could hold a photocell every 200mm or so with a PIC (pre-)processor, using 300mm wide barcode decals... Cheers, Paul B.