Tjaart, The thing is though guys, Well yes you are correct that we would all like to be able to have FLASH in system programmed parts, for development when software is being rebuilt every few days or so this is great. But also during development surely you want to be able to do in system debugging dont you? None of the 8bit micros provide this facility! I have been talking to MicroChip, NEC and Atmel about this, apparently nobody has asked for it before .... surely not! On Motorolla DSP's namely the DSP56000's and DSP56300's they have something called the OnCE port (On Chip Emulator) believe me this is the business, all curteousy of a small 4 pin header socket. regards, SW. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Yeeeeehah! - 50MHz 16C5X clones ! Author: tjaart@wasp.co.za at INTERNET Date: 28/08/97 17:08 Andy Kunz wrote: > > Tjaart wrote: > > >My (opinionated) opinion first.... > > They're just like every other decent company - driven by customer demand. Do you imply by this that there is no demand for flash chips ? (I mean *real* chips, not the '84) The demand for flash has been there for a long time. -- Friendly Regards Tjaart van der Walt mailto:tjaart@wasp.co.za ________________________________________________________ | WASP International http://wasp.co.za | | R&D Engineer : GSM peripheral services development | |Vehicle tracking | Telemetry systems | GSM data transfer| |Voice : +27-(0)11-622-8686 | Fax : +27-(0)11-622-8973 | | WGS-84 : 26010.52'S 28006.19'E | |________________________________________________________|