At 05:08 PM 8/28/97 +0200, Tjaart wrote: >Mchip can't even supply us with the '74s we want, so how the hell can we >build up a 'decent' volume?? A nice catch-22 if you ask me.. Why don't >they >make their C compiler work so people can get more working products out >there? I don't have a problem getting them. Maybe you're on the wrong side of the Atlantic - they provide fine in the Pacific Rim countries, too. Real Embedded Programmers Use Assembly. (I use both, so I still qualify as "real" ). Seriously, though, the '7x is about the smallest chip that is practical for a C compiler, although I do use it in smaller chips (like an '84-based project I'm working on). Like my old high school math teacher always said, "If ya wanna do da job right, ya gotta have da right tools." He used that to belittle the less gifted students (and we all hated him for it), but the principle is correct. >> They're just like every other decent company - driven by customer demand. > >Do you imply by this that there is no demand for flash chips ? (I mean >*real* chips, not the '84) The demand for flash has been there for a >long >time. I'm just pointing out that, now that there's some competition (which there wasn't before), they have become very much more interested in listening to engineers. Now that there's competition and somebody might cut into their profits (uh-oh, here I go mixing off-topic threads), they have a reason to listen and BY GOLLY THEY'RE LISTENING! Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================