Tjaart wrote: >My (opinionated) opinion first.... >I don't think Microchip 'unveiled' 20 'new' flash micro's (for full >production in the year 2050) in their press release for nothing. The >'future >products' pdf file on the Microchip site makes for real good reading, if >a >bit too humorous. They can't even fix up a buggy compiler in a year, so >how >would they be able to do a 16C877 (EE version of the '77) in good time? The Scenix and AVR chips have made MCHP much more interested in listening to engineers. We had two MCHP employees here yesterday for two hours. One guy from Chandler (about 5 hours of flying), another from Long Island (a two-hour drive), and a sales rep from south Jersey (two hours). We were talking about half a million parts a year between two of our customers (almost done projects). My guess is we're going to get the chip we want (same chip both projects) and YOU will benefit, and it's going to happen SOON because it's half a million chips a year and we need them for production by about January. It isn't on the Future Products list because we just spelled it out to them yesterday. I suggest you stop complaining about how they aren't giving you what you want (C compiler, chip features, etc). Get them an order that will mean real volume, and you'll get exactly what you want. They're just like every other decent company - driven by customer demand. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================