Bob Lunn 08/26/97 11:18 AM > A scale that could measure down to fractions of > a gram would be somewhat useful - counting things > - measuring correct ratio of sulphur / charcoal / > potassium chlorate etc (no, I don't make this in > 5k lots!) Laboratory scales and commercial counting scales are most certainly useful things. You might care to price these items. This will give you a first order estimate of the difficulty of building one. In considering mechanisms to use for load or mass determination please keep in mind: span drift zero drift hysteresis creep ...just for starters. Jacques requires a mechanism to measure a load from 0 to 5,000 grammes with a resolution of 5 grammes, with a dead load not exceeding 500 grammes. We should still clarify the temperature range over which the scale is to operate, the repeatability of readings, long term drift of readings, need for zero and tare mechanisms, and requirements (if any) for standards certification. These days, the conversion of an electronic signal to a digital value is easily solved for reasonable cost. The greatest problems usually arise in the physical load sensing mechanism. There's no point in having a 16-bit A/D converter if an elastomeric mounting imposes 5% hysteresis, or a knife edge continually binds. Anyway, the most common sensing techniques for electronic load measurement are: metal foil and silicon strain gauges (configured to respond to shear, bending, torsion, compression, or tension) piezoelectric bending beams capacitive measurement of displacement optical measurement of displacement Strain gauges are most commonly used for loads in the range of 50kg to 25,000kg. The most common implementation would be a shear beam, with a nominal accuracy of 2000 to 3000 grads. Physical constraints on the load sensing element to which the strain gauge is bonded makes the use of strain gauges for very small, and very large, loads more difficult. Piezoelectric systems have probably had most success with very large loads requiring modest accuracy, such as gross tonnage measurement of trucks. The difficulty with piezoelectric elements is that they only respond to changes in load. A static load produces no output. They can, however, be used to build very robust (and thus safe) weighing systems. Hence their success with high capacity weighing. Capacitive and optical measurement of displacement are the most common mechanisms for small loads. For a 5kg scale these are certainly the approaches I would be considering. I would not use a strain gauge based load cell for this purpose. Scale design and manufacture is a _very_ competitive industry, and has been so for many decades. There are a large number of patents covering scale design and manufacture. An excellent education in these issues can be drawn from reading patent documents. Given that many of these patents have expired, the techniques they describe are available for use. ___Bob