Has anyone every used Warp 4.0 from Cypress Semiconductor? I believe it is incredibly expensive, but a "free" copy comes with the book _VHDL for Programmable Logic_ by Kevin Skahill. I've used this program and book for years to program many GALS/PALS and I love it. You can order it for approx. $40 from Amazon. The level of VHDL required to program programmable logic is incredibly straightforward and easy. Quick learning. ___________________________________________________________________________ Garrick Kremesec | "There is no witness so dreadful, no University of Illinois U/C | accuser so terrible as the conscience http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~gkremese | that dwells in the heart of every gkremese@uiuc.edu | man." - Polybius