1) I have the PICSTART-16C programmer (firmware V1.30) but unfortunately it is not recognised by MPLAB (v3.22.02) when I go to the setup options. Does anyone know how to get it to be recognised and then how to program a PIC16C77? 2) I am changing from PIC 74 to 77 due to space requirements. Is there anything that I ought to look out for? Thanks Stephen H Alsop email: steve@s.ssystems.easynet.co.uk S&S Systems Ltd www: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~s.ssystems