In a message dated 97-08-15 11:56:11 EDT, you write: << Well I've been following the latest days development in the mentioned threads and I actually enjoy it. Maybe I'm a bit strange, but what's the big deal... I think that the off-topic-threads bring the PIC-community closer, beacuse engineers are (from what atleast i have seen) much the same all around the world; boys in spirit. The boring, academic type of engineer might want to turn to another forum for discussion... If these, as someone called them, watercooler discussions bother any of you please set up the 'pure - technical - and - nothing - but - technical - pic - list'. >> Finally a voice of reason! I find it much more annoying that the writers of off-topic messages feel the need to make the subject of the email "OFF-TOPIC" as if I can't figure that out on my own. Its all related in the end. Dave Duley