Don't sweat the fluorescent lighting. It takes me a couple of minutes to erase most PIC's with my DataErase II, about 60 to 240 minutes with a commercial U/V (black light) tube, and I've left PIC's and Eproms under fluorescent light for weeks with no damage. The short times described in the original post are with high intensity U/V tubes like that in the DataErase. CIAO - Martin R. Green elimar@bigfoot.com ---------- From: Shane Nelson[SMTP:i@CHEETAH.SPOTS.AB.CA] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 1997 3:39 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: frying a PIC On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Andy Kunz wrote: > >I have a dozen 'c54 chips that won't erase. I'm thinking I probably fried > >them with too much current... > > Probably. '54 usually is a couple minutes, even when cp'd > > Andy Couple minutes?? Wow. I find they need at least 20. I wonder if it's possible to damage them by UV exposure, or by just leaving them under normal flourscent lighting.. I usually don't cover the window when testing. -Shane.