At 03:08 PM 8/13/97 -0400, Martin R. Green wrote: >You might not have fried them after all. I have heard that one of the ways >MicroChip increased the security of their devices is to increase the UV >exposure needed to erase the configuration bits. This is because some >enterprising souls figured out how to manipulate the chip voltage and >erasure techniques to clear the code protect bit while still leaving the >code itself intact. By making the configuration bits much harder to erase, >the contents of the program memory will be gone by the time the protect bit >is cleared. > >Anyway, it could be that you just need to increase your erase time over >what you had been using, since your programmer might report that device is >not blank even if only the configuration byte is non-blank. > >If you are using old (pre-used) chips that you KNOW don't have the new >security features, your chips might still be OK. UV light sources weaken >with age, and it is possible that all you need to do is increase the erase >duration to compensate. If you find it take a lot longer to erase chips >now, you might want to replace your UV tube. > >Finally, check for dirty quartz windows on the chips themselves, and maybe >(this one is a stretch) the chips are just getting harder to erase with >age. > > >CIAO - Martin R. Green >elimar@bigfoot.com I've got 8 chips exhibiting this behaviour, and I tried erasing for 20 min. without success. I'm using relatively old chips, I believe, but even with the code protection, would 20 min. be reasonable? --- Unknown