FWIW, we're not talking about how many PC power supplies fail, but how many fail in such a way as to burst into flames and set fire to the surroundings, which puts the probability figure way down. In a company with several thousand PCs, many of which are no-name clones and few of which are ever turned off (many sitting in labs unattended and unused for weeks or months at a timer), I don't think we've ever had a fire... BillW