One thing that's driving me nuts on several projects is that there isn't a windowed surface mount version. I'm getting around it when in the emulator by using a SMT-to-DIP adapter (from Digi-Key parts from AMP plus a custom PCB), but sometimes there just ain't enough room in the target. So how about, MCHP? Make us /JWSM chips! (I don't care if they cost $50.00 each, JUST MAKE 'EM!) Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================