>Did you notice the 18 month leadtime before *samples* were going to be >available? This is the hardware equivalent of vapourware. I mean, if >Microsoft stated that their next os, lets call it, um, Washington, would run >on a 386, would support all 95, 98, and NT 5 features, and offer voice >recognition and be fully object-oriented, but wouldn't have any betas >available til 1st 1/4 '99, how much credence would you give them? Given the >severe lack of info in 'Future Products', I'd write it off as damage >control... Please don't misunderstand me, but as I recall Win95 was originally supposed to ship in '93. If "Washington" were scheduled for 1Q99, my guess is they're already "95% done" in Redmond. (That's 1999 I presume. If 2099, they're almost done with specs ) However, given the relatively low complexity of the PIC line, I'd agree that 18 months means somebody had a jr engr make a wish list based upon AVR features, had it sanitized by a more sr engr, and then published it as future products. Knowing a little about what's really coming, though, makes me sit here patiently... Like most of us, I have my own PIC wish list. It's been shared in several places. Anybody check out the new Scenix PIC clone http://www.scenix.com or http://www.parallaxinc.com Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================