Lawrence Lile writes: >One other problem is with power relays (which I use). If you trigger >a relay at the same spot on the AC sine wave every time it's similar >to switching DC. One contact of the relay tends to plate out on the >other, resulting in pitting and reduced life. I've been warned to >introduce a time delay so the relay switches at different polarities. > Is this a fairy tale from an overzealous relay salesmqan or has >anyone seen suych a problem? What the salesman said is true as far as it goes. If you could be sure that the relay opened and closed at the zero-point in the sine wave, then there would be no pitting and no sparks. It is hard to do that on an electro-mechanical device like that. You didn't say what kind of currents were being switched, but the bigger the relay, the more inertia there is in the iron that is being moved and the more uncertainty there is in the exact microsecond that the contacts will either make or break. If I were building such a device, I would try the lazy man's way, first. I would look for one of the solid-state relays which was designed with a zero-crossing detector in the closure circuit. These usually have a TRIAC as the switch, (relay contacts), so they will by nature open on the next zero-crossing after you remove the DC control voltage from the LED or what would have been the coil. It would most likely be necessary to install spike suppressors on the TRIAC side and a device called a snubber to prevent high-voltage spikes on the mains from tripping the TRIAC, but this circuit would be electrically clean and quiet as well as acoustically quiet, also. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK 36.7N97.4W OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group