---Original Message----- From: Robert Drake To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Saturday, 2 August 1997 02:02 Subject: New Pics - FLASH.... >Hi All > Have you all seen the new products PDF on Mchips web site? I >Have and apart from being rather annoyed with a microchip rep for >telling me that microchip would NEVER do anything like the following- >Seen the PIC16F787 :-) For those that have not seen it yet 4096x14 Flash >128x8Ram 128x8EEprom timers capture PWM A-D USART BOR Gain Amplifier(?) >ICSP(?) 4xPhase Lock Loop(for performance inprovement ?) 2.5V >Ok it sounds good but i have been informed that we will have to wait for >18 Mths or so before we see samples :-(. What are you annoyed by? The vapourware aspects (raised to a high artform by Microsoft ) or the product itself? I'd say the vapour-products are just a self-interest move to protect themselves against ATMEL AVR et al. The comparison is disappointingly biased. Do they really think we can't compare data sheets for ourselves? 18 months is a long lead - I'd expect it to be wrong - and the specs to have changed considerably by the time it gets here. MikeS