Hi All Have you all seen the new products PDF on Mchips web site? I Have and apart from being rather annoyed with a microchip rep for telling me that microchip would NEVER do anything like the following- Seen the PIC16F787 :-) For those that have not seen it yet 4096x14 Flash 128x8Ram 128x8EEprom timers capture PWM A-D USART BOR Gain Amplifier(?) ICSP(?) 4xPhase Lock Loop(for performance inprovement ?) 2.5V Ok it sounds good but i have been informed that we will have to wait for 18 Mths or so before we see samples :-(. -- Robert Drake