Hi Folks, I haven't seen it here yet, but I thought I'd point out that on Microchip's web page they've got a 76 page .pdf file entitled "Future Products". To summarize, in this they list a bunch of new products including: Enhanced 8-Pin Devices (with EEPROM) Mixed Signal Devices EEPROM/Flash Parts capable of running up to 20 MHz EEPROM/Flash Parts that will replace the current EPROM line - These parts include built in Reset and the 12C5xx's RC Oscillator - Big YAY on this one - You will be able to get 16 I/O on an 18 Pin Device Upgraded Serial EEPROM Products MPLAB C v2.xx MPLAB ICE a cheap(er) ICE? If somebody from Microchip is out there, I guess I would be interested in: 1. When are all these new devices going to be available? - Including Samples 2. If possible, what are the prices going to be? - Included in this is the MPLAB ICE Thanx, myke "If at first you don't succeed, then maybe sky diving isn't the sport for you" - Steve Smith