> > Data book page 90 > > > > Minimum 1M > > Typical 10M > >>mANY PEOPLES SAY THAT'S IS LIMITED FOR 10.000! When the 16C84 first came out, the spec said 10,000 min. After additional testing and experience, microchip increases the spec to 1Million. I don't know offhand whether that new minimum applies to the older chips as well, but it certainly would for the newer 16F84... BillW