I am using the development package from TDE (formerly a parallax product) I am using the standard assembler provided by TDE. I would like to use the output of the assembler to load a PICSTART-16C programmer (v1.3) and program a PIC 16C74A. The emulator works fine (sort of, as it has comm errors from time to time) >From what I can ascertain, the TDE assembler outputs .obj files and the PICSTART is looking for .hex files. Is there any way to achieve compatibility? Gus Calabrese -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WFT Electronics wft@frii.com http://www.frii.com/~wft Gus Calabrese 303 321-1119......voicemail Lola Montes 1799 Uinta Street Denver, CO 80220 EMERGENCY: 791 High Street Estes Park, CO 80517 if no success with wft@frii.com, try .... wft@bigfoot.com