myke predko wrote: big snips --------- > Actually, for PICs, I should point out that the SIMMSticks are great > prototyping tools (I used one for one of the projects in my book) and can > reduce your prototype build drastically. Mixing them with point to point > and wire-wrapping can be a very effective PIC prototyping method. > That wraps up my 2p worth. Sorry folks, couldn't resist. > Sorry Tim for the long missive on wire wrap versus other forms, > myke Glad someone finally got around to this point Myke. I too am a fan of wire wrap and have used it for small and large prototypes, however having all your PIC circuitry on a 30 pin SimmStick module means you only have to wire wrap, or solder point to point your specific I/O. And when you have finished your birdsnest, and finally have it de-bugged, you then pull out your SimmStick and re-use it in your next project. New SimmSticks are now appearing that may even cover your specific I/O task. Interfacing to the SimmStick can be done via a set of 30 male/female pins, or a 30 pin memory module socket. This lends itself readily to breadboard, and veroboard interfacing. SimmStick also has proto type boards, so for a one off design, the SimmStick proto board becomes the final product. You only need to join your CPU board to your Proto board with a simple bus using veroboard or male/female pins. Suitable veroboard that has 30 tracks in parallel at .1" centers must be one of the most common boards available off the shelf. Don McKenzie don@dontronics.com http://www.dontronics.com PICSTART and Newfound PIC Programmers Firmware Upgrades. SLI, the serial LCD that auto detects baud rates from 100 to 125K bps. SimmStick(tm) A PIC proto PCB the size of a 30 pin Simm Memory Module. Send a blank message to info@dontronics.com for more details.