>Opal Jr is one (National) >PLDSHELL (Intel) Antti, National is out of the PLD business, OPAL is long gone. Fortunately, I have a copy, but it only works on "old" technology parts. Get the Lattice software. It's on the CD. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================