The circuit below is fine if the other end is a 'real' RS232 driver. If both of them are like this, then nothing will happen since both ends will wait indefinitely for the other to put a -ve signal on its Tx. You go first... no, you go first... no, ... This is a definite inclusion for the Devil's handbook of dodgy circuits (available from Hades Publications, cost: 1 engineer's soul). Regards, SJH Canberra, Australia > From: Gena > I found this years ago and it works great, tested on several machines > and long cable length (>>30m ). > > > + 5V +5V > | \ > \ / 2K2 > E\ | \ > BC557 \| | > /|----+--/\/\/\/\--- TTL In > C | 10K > DB9 (2) ----------------+ > | > \ > / 2K2 > \ + 5V > / | > +-----+ \ > | | / 10k > | ----- \ > \--/ ----- 10n / > 1N4148 \/ | |-----------TTL Out > ----- _|_GND | /C > | 10k |/ > DB9 (3) ----------+---------/\/\/---|\ BC547 > | \E > | > _|_ > GND > Best regards, > Gena >