... snip ... > I'm looking for a program with wich i can develop software for PAL's and GAL's > (JEDEC file type). I have a program (abel 4.0) wich we used a school but this > program needs a dongle on the printer port and i don't have this dongle. ... snip ... I use Warp 4.1 from Cypress Semiconductor. It's only $99 and includes a nice VHDL package and a moderately useful simulator. (By moderately useful I mean it sucks but you can "approximate" useful results.) The VHDL package is pretty good though. sms -- +------+ Steve Swam | /// | Sr. Design Engineer voice: (612)946-3146 | ADC| ADC Telecommunications fax: (612)946-3499 | | 4900 W. 78th Street, MS-96 email: swam@adc.com +------+ Minneapolis, MN 55435-5410 #include All opinions are my own, not those of ADC Telecommunications.