Below is a correction to a message I sent earlier today: If you have plus and minus 5v you can do the following: Put the TTL level signal through a 10K resistor to drive the base of a 2N3906, collector connected to -5v through a 1K resistor.. Emitter is connected to 5v. TTL high will result in an output at the collector of the 3906 that will be -5v. TTL low will result in +5v at the collector of the 3906. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WFT Electronics wft@frii.com http://www.frii.com/~wft Gus Calabrese 303 321-1119......voicemail Lola Montes 1799 Uinta Street Denver, CO 80220 EMERGENCY: 791 High Street Estes Park, CO 80517 if no success with wft@frii.com, try .... wft@bigfoot.com