>Still, hole-punched paper does have a couple of advantages over other >media: [1] You can label the media directly in the writer; [2] You can >read paper tape by hand if necessary without any equipment. Really not >that bad a technology for its time. And the kids loved it as well, these days they get a choice of shoot- em-ups (and who said people are not influenced by what they are shown). I remember being about 10 years old and wandering into the uni computer room - several DecWriters (300Baud), paper punches, readers, mag tapes. And a big grey bag in one corner overflowing with paper tape - those where the daze... Rdgs Mike Perth, Western Australia Some say there is no magic but, all things begin with thought then it becomes academic, then some poor slob works out a practical way to implement all that theory, this is called Engineering - for most people another form of magic. Massen