Tim, I have experience with the Lattice's ISP 22V10, 1016, and 2032 and I have'nt had the problems you mentioned though you have obviously tested this. I did have a problem with a 2032 that kept insisting it was protected under pDS and Synario. Exporting the file and using ispDownload worked fine. It looks like my software needs to be updated and I'm fortunate that Lattice is local and the rep is giving me the "Jungle Pack" with updated software. How does this relate to the PIC? ;-) Well, I use their 1016 to emulate generic Motorola and Intel uP signals off of a PC parallel port. It allows me to test a variety of peripheral chips and PIC interfaces. With a 1016, I get an 18 Bit address bus, 8 Bit data bus, and related control signals. It's also good for programming memory chips... - Tom At 10:15 AM 6/5/97 +0100, you wrote: >Wow, I go away for a week and it takes me most of the following week to get [snip] >3. Overvolts protection. This comment refers to recent posts on both MOV >(etc) devices and in-system programmable logic. I had a bad experience a >year ago with Lattice ispLSI parts, when I managed to blow up several. It >took a while to work out what was going on, and I urge anyone thinking of >using in-system programmed ICs of any type to read carefully. The system >under development was a prototyping aid. In use, it is possible to short >out Vcc (5V) and Gnd. OK, so there's no need to design the system so that [snip] >Tim Forcer Tel: (+44) (0)1703 593362