I don't think this is specifically PIC-related, so please feel free to reply to me privately if you think the list wouldn't be interested in your answer. I was having a problem the other day where my 20MHz 16C63/JW seemed to be running at more like 6-7MHz. I wrote up a description of the problem and almost submitted it to the list, but then I decided to spend $0.75 of my own money buying another 20MHz crystal first. Sure enough, the new crystal works fine. I suspect and hope that the first crystal was just mislabelled. Or is this something that could happen again? Can damage to a crystal change its frequency, rather than just break it? Further details: I have no oscilloscope, but as far as my blinkenlights programs showed, the first crystal worked steadily and reliably, just at the wrong rate. I have the OSC1/OSC2 capacitors installed as recommended in the data book (22pF), and the OSC TYPE bits are set to "HS" (assuming that the Picstart Plus software is doing its job). I don't think it's a marginal 16C63; I'm using two of them, and in any case the new 20MHz crystal works with both. Brian