Once upon a time when dinosaurs ruled the earth, when the Apple II was brand new (and way beyond the means of even a non-starving student) an ASR 33 teletype was pretty desireable, being as how you could save hex files onto paper tape so as to not have to type them in. In retrospect, I was lucky I never found one I could afford, but I sure wanted one then. Anyhow, way back then I built my own computer system out of a donated Signetics 2650A (nice processor too), a handful of really cool 1024 x 4 SRAMS, and a bunch of suplus LS TTL for glue logic. All nicely hand wire wrapped (more fun than knitting!) according to my own drawings. It took months of evenings, but it came up on the second try and I was just thrilled. Since then, I have made my living doing software and have forgotten most of what little I ever knew about electronics. Now, I am interested again and would like to do a few things with the PIC. But, I think perhaps wire-wrap is not what I want to do, and maybe I need more than my old 1978 TTL Databook especially since I would like to to some AD and control and I never did know anything about analog. So, here is the newbie question: Where do I get a quick practical self taught electronics education? Back when there were the Don Lancaster "CMOS Cookbook", etc books. Just enough theory to be sound, enough decent examples to show how, and a lot of practical advice on what works and what doesn't. I am looking for a book or two with that kind of approach. I am not looking for "Microcontrollers for Dummies", I already know how to do software and sort of still understand a little digital logic. But, I am way out of touch with modern hardware practice and would like to fill in the gaps. For example: What is a reasonable process for making your own boards these days, or is wirewrap still it for prototypeing? Are FPGA something I can think about using? I have no idea of the reality of this sort of thing, but the idea of specifying what you need and plugging it into a socket instead of building it out of a pile of chips is compelling. Where can I get (or rather which should I get) a reasonable set of databooks to familiarize myself with the more standard modern components? Both digital and analog please. Now that we all have computers, I probably don't have to draw my next project by hand. What software (prefer freeware, prefer Linux based, but will pay, will use Windows if need be) should I look for? It looks like you just order stuff from Digi-Key these days. Is this true, or are there other better suppliers? Any good surplus places? If you know where I can get this information, or even better if you have an opinion, please let me know. Thanks! -dg David Gould dg@illustra.com 510.869.6383 or 510.305.9468 Informix Software (formerly Illustra) 1111 Broadway #2000 Oakland, CA 94607 - I realize now that irony has no place in business communications.