(True subscribers could get around this >by using m*ney or s*x). Gee I'm glad you didn't say m*ney f*r s*x but, then we are Engin**rs ;) And yes I agree - the listserver should reject nonsubscriber emails etc Rgds Mike Perth, Western Australia Some say there is no magic but, all things begin with thought then it becomes academic, then some poor slob works out a practical way to implement all that theory, this is called Engineering - for most people another form of magic. Massen