When I suggested CFLEA, I forgot to check something. The processors it is ready to use with are not the 17C5X: The CF VM Kernel is available from DDS for following targets: PIC16C57 6805 68hc11 8051 (generic) x86 (ie IBM-PC) and from Silicon Studio (http://www.sistudio.com/) AT89C2051 PIC16CXX AVR coming too A value added reseller of DDS's CFLEA is (http://www.sistudio.com/) although, the fact that they resell and add onto CFLEA is not on the web site right now..?!... If interested, give them a word or two at info@sistudio.com John Griessen CIBOLO Metal Works 3406 Hancock Dr Austin TX 78731-5432 512 451-8207 http://www.tpoint.net/~john_g/cibolo/