Artikkelissa <33632B95.3E6D@nemo.it> Cesare.Lavazza@NEMO.IT (Reply-To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU) (KS kirjoitti: KM> But I still haven't found a 16C84 simple programmer schematics to KM> connect to the printer or the serial port of a PC. KM> KM> Does anyone have a good, tested, simple 16C84 programmer schematic? KM> Thanks. You can try for example Schaer or David Tait's Topic. I built my Schaer on a stripe-coppered protoboard. And it really works. It looks like: +5V 15..30V |14 +-------+ +--+--+ V+ ]--|>|---+-----+ 78L05 +--- +5V | 7407| | +---+---+ +--+--+ | | |7 | GND GND | +-------+ A K +-----+ 78L12 +--- +12V ------[LED]------[1k]----GND +---+---+ "Power" V- ]--- GND | GND A K Vpp ------[LED]------[1k]----GND "Activity" Vdd |14 Vdd-[10K]--+ +---------+--------+ 1|\ 2 | 13| | D0 (2)-----------+ >--------------+-------+ RB7/Data | |/ | | | +5V-[10k]-+ | | | | 12 /|13 | | PIC 16C84 | Busy (11)-------+--< +--------------+ | 18 pin | \| | ZIF Socket | Vdd-[10k]--+ | | 3|\ 4 | 12| | D1 (3)----------+ >---------------+------+ RB6/Clock | |/ | | Vpp-[10K]--+ | | 5|\ 6 | 4| | D2 (4)----------+ >---------------+------+ -MCLR/Vpp | |/ | | +---------+--------+ |5 +5V GND | +--[10K]---+ | | 11|\ 10 | B |/ E +-----+ >----[10K]--+--------| PNP | |/ |\ C | | | +---Vdd | | | [10K] | | | GND | | +12V | | | +--[10K]---+ | | | | 9|\ 8 | B |/ E D3 (5)----+-----+ >----[10K]--+--------| PNP |/ |\ C | +---Vpp GND (19)------GND | [10K] | GND >From http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/piclinks.html you can find your way to Topic. It's quite nice because it's at the same time a proto board. Easy to do, if you can get your hands on laser printer (or a photocopier) and UV-stuff to do the PCB. I tried serial a serial programmer at first, but it didn't do a thing with my computer. Ecco a lei. Kimmo