Hi Folks, For those of you using or interested in my picstart 16B upgrade or warp-3 or pp1 programmers. Please note that I have posted important information on my web page regarding the long promised upgrades, bugs and distribution. Please keep a watch on http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~newfound over the next few weeks as I will be updating as I go. My apologies for the delay, I was ill for a few months and stopped working altogether. I'm ok now and working very quickly to get back up to date. Anyway, if you are interested, please keep watch. Thanks for the bandwidth! Jim P.S. I am doing a picstart 16C upgrade also. Can anyone help with firmware to socket connections while I'm waiting on my 16C to arrive?