I will add my $.02 - I use AP Circuits a lot, and have never had any real trouble. I have used them several time for runs of 50 boards for small production of a device. EP circuits on the other hand is a little cheaper, but much less quality. Hole plating was OK on the one double side board I had done, but several of the units had the solder mask skewed so far as to be off the pad. Some units were OK. I tried them again for a single sided board. The copper was really plated heavy. This tends to close up the holes. Not worth the little money I saved. Gary Skinner gskinner@csd.net Electronic Solutions, Inc. design of custom electronic controls